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Hawk a écrit:Williams mérite plus que le team de Bracley l'aide de l'état britannique.... mais bon si cela se fait avec l'ex Honda, il faut appeler cela British Racing Motion....soit BRM !
Hawk a écrit:Williams mérite plus que le team de Bracley l'aide de l'état britannique.... mais bon si cela se fait avec l'ex Honda, il faut appeler cela British Racing Motion....soit BRM !
Hawk a écrit:attends un peu, je connais ton attachement envers l'ex écurie Honda et je la supporte encore depuis plus longtemps que toi, je crois...mais, ce n'est plus du tout Honda maintenant que le bailleur de fonds japonnais s'est retiré, ce sont juste des gens qui bossent et si l'état devait aider toutes les entreprises qui ferment ou licencient où allons nous ??? c'est impossible. !
Seb a écrit:Primo, je ne suis pas du tout fan de Honda.
Seb a écrit:Hawk a écrit:attends un peu, je connais ton attachement envers l'ex écurie Honda et je la supporte encore depuis plus longtemps que toi, je crois...mais, ce n'est plus du tout Honda maintenant que le bailleur de fonds japonnais s'est retiré, ce sont juste des gens qui bossent et si l'état devait aider toutes les entreprises qui ferment ou licencient où allons nous ??? c'est impossible. !
Primo, je ne suis pas du tout fan de Honda.
Secundo, Honda a certes retiré ses billes mais ce n'est pas pour cela que la structure n'existe plus. Vu qu'elle est plutôt mal barrée, on veut assurer son maintien par le versement d'une aide d'Etat. Et comme il y a sans doute dix fois plus de personnes menacées par la fermeture de Honda que celle de Williams et que la situation de cette dernière est sans doute moins catastrophique, ben le choix a été vie fait.
Ghinzani a écrit:la première f1 communiste...
Hawk a écrit:Williams a juste eu le tort de ne pas aller pleurer auprès du gouvernement pour obtenir des aides.....
autosport a écrit:
Honda deny discussing bail-out
By Jonathan Noble Thursday, January 29th 2009, 15:25 GMT
Honda have made it clear that suggestions their Formula One team could receive a government bail-out are totally incorrect.
A story in The Guardian this morning suggested that Honda Racing were in talks with the British government to receive a share of the £2.3 billion bail-out of the car industry that was announced by Lord Mandelson earlier this week.
The Honda Racing team initially declined to comment on the story, fuelling the idea that a bail-out from the Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform (BERR) could form part of a rescue package for the team.
However, a spokesman for the Honda Motor Company told autosport.com that although there had been discussions with BERR about the team, there was never any plan to receive a government handout.
"We have met with BERR on several occasions, to discuss how things are progressing, plus the prospects for the team and their 700 employees," said the spokesman.
"However, we have not met with them to discuss a bail-out and no discussions have taken place about a government financial bail-out."
Seb a écrit:Hawk a écrit:attends un peu, je connais ton attachement envers l'ex écurie Honda et je la supporte encore depuis plus longtemps que toi, je crois...mais, ce n'est plus du tout Honda maintenant que le bailleur de fonds japonnais s'est retiré, ce sont juste des gens qui bossent et si l'état devait aider toutes les entreprises qui ferment ou licencient où allons nous ??? c'est impossible. !
Primo, je ne suis pas du tout fan de Honda.
Secundo, Honda a certes retiré ses billes mais ce n'est pas pour cela que la structure n'existe plus. Vu qu'elle est plutôt mal barrée, on veut assurer son maintien par le versement d'une aide d'Etat. Et comme il y a sans doute dix fois plus de personnes menacées par la fermeture de Honda que celle de Williams et que la situation de cette dernière est sans doute moins catastrophique, ben le choix a été vie fait.
Marlaga a écrit:10 fois plus ? 700 salariés pour Brackley, ça veut dire que tu penses que Williams tourne avec 70 personnes ?
elde a écrit:Au sujet de l'aide fournie à Honda , ne pourrait il pas y avoir confusion avec une aide eventuelle à Honda pour son usine de Swindon ( qui emploie 4300 personnes)et qui va être au mieux en activité réduite voire fermée pendant 4 mois.
Ouais_supère a écrit:Stef, t'es chiant
Post-It a écrit:Seb a écrit:Primo, je ne suis pas du tout fan de Honda.
Boarf, Seb/stef, c'est chou vert et vert chou.
Nicklaus a écrit:C'est ce qu'a dit Moncet dimanche dernier.
Senna signs for Honda?
According to our sources Bruno Senna has now signed for the Honda Racing F1 team - and an announcement that the team will be going ahead will be made soon. The team is expected to use Mercedes-Benz engines and Senna will be partnered by Jenson Button. Backing for the team - the name of which has yet to be announced - is expected to come from Petrobras and probably one or two of Senna's personal sponsors.
It is not clear when the announcement will be made.
There have been some rumours in recent days that the team may have the backing of none other than Bernie Ecclestone. This would not be a surprise as Ecclestone is keen to make sure that the teams are not unanimous within the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) and having a financial interest in one of them is a good way to ensure that this happens.
It is believed that the majority of the money to run the team will be coming from Honda itself as it is cheaper to pay to keep the team alive than it is to lay off all the staff.
Ouais_supère a écrit:Stef, t'es chiant
http://brunosennaoficial.blogspot.com/2009/02/brasileiro-continua-na-expectativa-por.html
On Thursday, Feb. 12, Bruno Senna told Luis Fernando Ramos (Tazio, Brazil) he hadn't signed any contract with Honda yet.
Ouais_supère a écrit:Stef, t'es chiant
Stéphane a écrit:Senna signs for Honda?
According to our sources Bruno Senna has now signed for the Honda Racing F1 team - and an announcement that the team will be going ahead will be made soon. The team is expected to use Mercedes-Benz engines and Senna will be partnered by Jenson Button. Backing for the team - the name of which has yet to be announced - is expected to come from Petrobras and probably one or two of Senna's personal sponsors.
It is not clear when the announcement will be made.
There have been some rumours in recent days that the team may have the backing of none other than Bernie Ecclestone. This would not be a surprise as Ecclestone is keen to make sure that the teams are not unanimous within the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) and having a financial interest in one of them is a good way to ensure that this happens.
It is believed that the majority of the money to run the team will be coming from Honda itself as it is cheaper to pay to keep the team alive than it is to lay off all the staff.
Ouais_supère a écrit:Stef, t'es chiant
Ouais_supère a écrit:Stef, t'es chiant
autosport a écrit:Petrobras rules out sponsoring Honda
By Jonathan Noble Monday, February 16th 2009, 15:10 GMT
Honda Racing have lost one of their main sponsors, with Brazilian oil company Petrobras confirming that it does not wish to be part of any plans to save the team.
While negotiations continue to try and secure the future of the Brackley-based outfit, speculation over the weekend had suggested that Petrobras were to be key backers in a rescue deal that would see Bruno Senna elevated to a race seat alongside Jenson Button.
However, not only have Petrobras denied any plans to support Senna, the company has also announced that it does not wish to see through a $10 million (USD) sponsorship deal that it signed with Honda at the end of last year.
Furthermore, without the possibility of linking up with another manufacturer, Petrobras has announced that it will quit F1 entirely because it is only interested in the technical challenges offered by the sport.
Claudio Thompson, Petrobras' Head of Sponsorship, said: "Petrobras' presence in Formula One was our means to continue technological development and to do that we needed to work closely with a manufacturer.
"Once Honda announced it was pulling out of Formula One, we decided we were going to stop too, because all the manufacturer-backed teams had fuel suppliers for 2009. We're not interested in just being a commercial sponsor without the possibility of using and developing our products."
As well as the decision regarding its future involvement in F1, Petrobras also issued a statement in Brazil responding to the Senna rumours and making it clear that the company has never adopted the policy of supporting drivers.
The statement said: "Petrobras denies the rumours seen in the media about Bruno Senna's hiring by the ex-Honda team with the company's support.
"The company has no contract with Honda or any future team being formed for the 2009 Formula One season. Petrobras also reiterates that under the terms of its Motorsport Sponsorship Programme, it does not sponsor drivers individually."
Although the loss of the Petrobras money is a dent to Honda Racing's bid to put together the budget for the season, it is understood the team are closing in on getting the finances ready to allow them to compete this season.
Although there has been no official comment coming from the team since the end of last year, it had been widely expected that a management buyout by Nick Fry and Ross Brawn would be the most likely outcome from the situation.
However, a report in The Daily Telegraph on Monday quoted a Honda source as saying that a bid from an unnamed third party had emerged that could take the team forward.
The report quoted the source as saying the company behind this mystery bid was: "reputable, able to bring long-term financial stability, with a brand image known throughout the world. Formula One would do well to have them on board."
Jenson Button is already contracted to the team for 2009, while Bruno Senna and Rubens Barrichello have been in negotiations with the team for the second drive.
Petrobras entered F1 in July 1998 with Williams.
Ouais_supère a écrit:Stef, t'es chiant
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